• Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track editing so

    From Bob J Jones@110:300/11 to All on Wed Mar 28 21:43:15 2018
    Subject: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track editing software exist for Linux?

    Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track displaying and editing software exist for Linux?

    While online USGS topographic map track displaying and editing web sites
    exist such as http://caltopo.com, I'm looking for an offline, free, USGS
    PDF map track editing and displaying capability on Linux.

    I wrote up yesterday the procedure I tested for Windows. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/yONNWAEx23Y/7LpakFp4BwAJ

    But the question here is whether that capability of using free detailed topographic map PDFs to first geocalibrate and then display and edit tracks exists on Linux.

    There does seem to exist successful Wine installations of the Windows
    software, but that's not the same thing as a native Linux application. http://www.oziexplorer3.com/support/oziexplorer/other/linux.html https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210752

    Apparently oziexplorer works on Android though http://oziexplorer3.com/oziexpmain_au.html

    So, this linux question is asking of this main capability of stitching USGS topographic PDFs together and geocalibrating them and editing tracks on
    them is available on Linux?

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  • From Steven Petruzzellis@110:300/11 to All on Wed Mar 28 22:24:52 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track
    editing software exist for Linux?

    On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 12:43:19 PM UTC-7, Bob J Jones wrote:
    Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track displaying a=
    nd
    editing software exist for Linux?
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    While online USGS topographic map track displaying and editing web sites exist such as http://caltopo.com, I'm looking for an offline, free, USGS
    PDF map track editing and displaying capability on Linux.
    =20
    I wrote up yesterday the procedure I tested for Windows. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/yONNWAEx23Y/7LpakFp=
    4BwAJ
    =20
    But the question here is whether that capability of using free detailed topographic map PDFs to first geocalibrate and then display and edit trac=
    ks
    exists on Linux.
    =20
    There does seem to exist successful Wine installations of the Windows software, but that's not the same thing as a native Linux application. http://www.oziexplorer3.com/support/oziexplorer/other/linux.html https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D210752
    =20
    Apparently oziexplorer works on Android though http://oziexplorer3.com/oziexpmain_au.html
    =20
    So, this linux question is asking of this main capability of stitching US=
    GS
    topographic PDFs together and geocalibrating them and editing tracks on
    them is available on Linux?



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  • From Carlos E.R.@110:300/11 to All on Wed Mar 28 23:03:10 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track
    editing software exist for Linux?

    On 2018-03-28 21:43, Bob J Jones wrote:
    Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track displaying and editing software exist for Linux?

    I have on my system something called "maps", "A simple maps
    application". The command is:

    gapplication launch org.gnome.Maps

    and it uses openstreet maps.


    Not what you are asking exactly, though, but I haven't investigated if
    the tool can open different maps.

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  • From Bob J Jones@110:300/11 to All on Thu Mar 29 00:12:35 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track editing software exist for Linux?

    In <news:ehctoe-c3q.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    I have on my system something called "maps", "A simple maps
    application". The command is:

    gapplication launch org.gnome.Maps

    and it uses openstreet maps.


    Not what you are asking exactly, though, but I haven't investigated if
    the tool can open different maps.

    I'll try to load that app to see what it does, but I would need to warn you that the OSM maps are fine for roads, and the concept is fantastic, but the implementation is the issue when it comes to accuracy compared to USGS topographic maps.

    For my purposes, OSM maps are useless for back country hiking plans, as the accuracy is just atrocious where I hike. In plains, or on established
    trails, the OSM topo maps are just fine, but for back country rugged
    terrain, the OSM maps are a non starter.

    Still ... on the satellite newsgroup this came up which indicates that the underlying technology for geocalibrating a USGS topo map and then editing
    and displaying tracks on it is something that is in Linux. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.geo.satellite-nav

    I don't have the skill set to implement what is suggested below, but it's
    good news that all the underlying tools exist on Linux according to what
    the poster said below. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/YmZtXefLLBs/e1RmShkVCAAJ

    Am Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:25:25 +0200, schrieb B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson:

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:38:08 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote:

    I was asked by a friend if this process described below works for Linux in >> addition to Windows.
    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/yONNWAEx23Y/7LpakFp4BwAJ
    [...]
    So, unless the main capability of stitching USGS PDFs together and
    geocalibrating them and editing tracks on them is available on Linux,
    having this command in linux isn't all that helpful.

    OziExplorer is "just" a GUI wrapper (like the free QGIS I recommended) around the functionality of the GIS tools and libraries from the free
    open source OSGEO project (and several others). These libraries and
    tools are - of course - also available for Linux. Actually, most of
    them have been initially developed there; and were just ported to Win
    later on.

    So for example: Instead of having OziExplorer call up gdal_translate,
    you could run it all by yourself.

    BeAr

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  • From Bob J Jones@110:300/11 to All on Thu Mar 29 01:28:34 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track editing software exist for Linux?

    In <news:p9h40i$crj$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Bob J Jones
    <bobjjones@startMail.com> wrote:

    OziExplorer is "just" a GUI wrapper (like the free QGIS I recommended)
    around the functionality of the GIS tools and libraries from the free
    open source OSGEO project (and several others). These libraries and
    tools are - of course - also available for Linux. Actually, most of
    them have been initially developed there; and were just ported to Win
    later on.


    It looks like the solution does work on Linux after all.

    In <news:epcfd51pfar5.dlg@br-ederson.eternal-september.org>, "B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson" <use.replyto@this.is.invalid> wrote:

    The programs /are/ all available. QGIS (available
    for Windows as well as Linux, Mac, BSD) is currently just the best solution as a GUI. Suitable for beginners as well as GIS Pro's. But there are other GUI's as well. *And* countless GIS command line tools and libraries.

    Thanks for the confirmation that QGIS exists for Linux & Windows. https://www.qgis.org/en/site/

    QGIS also supports geopdf files directly. (No need for conversation.)

    I'm not sure yet what a "geopdf" file is, but I guess what you're saying is that the PDFs from the USGS don't need to be "geocalibrated", is that what
    you mean?

    But those huge files load (very) slowly. Therefore I did recommend
    using WMS services. These load nearly instantaneously.

    WMS services?

    Web map services?
    http://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/working_with_wms.html

    Googling, is this an appropriate hit to ponder? https://www.northrivergeographic.com/qgiswms

    No need to load, convert and
    store huge amounts of raster data (which soon will be outdated), just to adjust a couple of track points to elevation contour lines..

    Is this the right place to get started using QGIS to view and create
    tracks, offline, on a desktop using USGS topographic maps? https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/index.html

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  • From Steven Petruzzellis@110:300/11 to All on Thu Mar 29 01:30:42 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track
    editing software exist for Linux?

    On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 4:28:38 PM UTC-7, Bob J Jones wrote:
    In <news:p9h40i$crj$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Bob J Jones
    <bobjjones@startMail.com> wrote:
    =20
    OziExplorer is "just" a GUI wrapper (like the free QGIS I recommended)=
    =20
    around the functionality of the GIS tools and libraries from the free
    open source OSGEO project (and several others). These libraries and
    tools are - of course - also available for Linux. Actually, most of
    them have been initially developed there; and were just ported to Win
    later on.

    =20
    It looks like the solution does work on Linux after all.
    =20
    In <news:epcfd51pfar5.dlg@br-ederson.eternal-september.org>, "B. R. 'BeAr=
    '
    Ederson" <use.replyto@this.is.invalid> wrote:
    =20
    The programs /are/ all available. QGIS (available
    for Windows as well as Linux, Mac, BSD) is currently just the best solu=
    tion
    as a GUI. Suitable for beginners as well as GIS Pro's. But there are ot=
    her
    GUI's as well. *And* countless GIS command line tools and libraries.
    =20
    Thanks for the confirmation that QGIS exists for Linux & Windows. https://www.qgis.org/en/site/
    =20
    QGIS also supports geopdf files directly. (No need for conversation.)
    =20
    I'm not sure yet what a "geopdf" file is, but I guess what you're saying =
    is
    that the PDFs from the USGS don't need to be "geocalibrated", is that wha=
    t
    you mean?
    =20
    But those huge files load (very) slowly. Therefore I did recommend=20 using WMS services. These load nearly instantaneously.=20
    =20
    WMS services?
    =20
    Web map services?
    http://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/working_with_wms.html
    =20
    Googling, is this an appropriate hit to ponder? https://www.northrivergeographic.com/qgiswms
    =20
    No need to load, convert and=20
    store huge amounts of raster data (which soon will be outdated), just t=
    o=20
    adjust a couple of track points to elevation contour lines..
    =20
    Is this the right place to get started using QGIS to view and create
    tracks, offline, on a desktop using USGS topographic maps? https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/index.html



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  • From Steven Petruzzellis@110:300/11 to All on Thu Mar 29 04:08:31 2018
    Subject: Re: Does offline USGS topographic PDF map geocalibration & track
    editing software exist for Linux?

    On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:12:39 PM UTC-7, Bob J Jones wrote:
    In <news:ehctoe-c3q.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    =20
    I have on my system something called "maps", "A simple maps
    application". The command is:
    =20
    gapplication launch org.gnome.Maps
    =20
    and it uses openstreet maps.
    =20
    =20
    Not what you are asking exactly, though, but I haven't investigated if
    the tool can open different maps.
    =20
    I'll try to load that app to see what it does, but I would need to warn y=
    ou
    that the OSM maps are fine for roads, and the concept is fantastic, but t=
    he
    implementation is the issue when it comes to accuracy compared to USGS topographic maps.
    =20
    For my purposes, OSM maps are useless for back country hiking plans, as t=
    he
    accuracy is just atrocious where I hike. In plains, or on established
    trails, the OSM topo maps are just fine, but for back country rugged
    terrain, the OSM maps are a non starter.
    =20
    Still ... on the satellite newsgroup this came up which indicates that th=
    e
    underlying technology for geocalibrating a USGS topo map and then editing
    and displaying tracks on it is something that is in Linux. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.geo.satellite-nav
    =20
    I don't have the skill set to implement what is suggested below, but it's good news that all the underlying tools exist on Linux according to what
    the poster said below. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/YmZtXefLLBs/e1RmShk=
    VCAAJ
    =20
    Am Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:25:25 +0200, schrieb B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson:
    =20
    On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:38:08 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote:
    =20
    I was asked by a friend if this process described below works for Linu=
    x in
    addition to Windows.
    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.geo.satellite-nav/yONNWAEx23Y/7Lpa=
    kFp4BwAJ
    [...]=20
    So, unless the main capability of stitching USGS PDFs together and
    geocalibrating them and editing tracks on them is available on Linux,
    having this command in linux isn't all that helpful.
    =20
    OziExplorer is "just" a GUI wrapper (like the free QGIS I recommended)=
    =20
    around the functionality of the GIS tools and libraries from the free
    open source OSGEO project (and several others). These libraries and
    tools are - of course - also available for Linux. Actually, most of
    them have been initially developed there; and were just ported to Win
    later on.
    =20
    So for example: Instead of having OziExplorer call up gdal_translate,
    you could run it all by yourself.
    =20
    BeAr



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