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https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=falseSeems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
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On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility toThere has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
On 23/07/2018 21:20, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:I assume that the tunnels heading East from Penn start descending towards the East River, the potential site of an "East Side Stop" in Manhattan around say, Park Ave, would be 100 feet or so below street level, I rekkin.
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
I know, but I was referring to the prospect of another station on the
East Side of Manhattan.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
Indeed, that is not a solution, as we saw in the case of the NYW&B.
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:56:50 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 23/07/2018 21:20, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> >> On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
I know, but I was referring to the prospect of another station on the
East Side of Manhattan.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
Indeed, that is not a solution, as we saw in the case of the NYW&B.
I assume that the tunnels heading East from Penn start descending towards the East River, the potential site of an "East Side Stop" in Manhattan around say, Park Ave, would be 100 feet or so below street level, I rekkin.
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT), JG <jgrove24@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:56:50 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 23/07/2018 21:20, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>>>> On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
I know, but I was referring to the prospect of another station on the
East Side of Manhattan.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
Indeed, that is not a solution, as we saw in the case of the NYW&B.
I assume that the tunnels heading East from Penn start descending towards the East River, the potential site of an "East Side Stop" in Manhattan around say, Park Ave, would be 100 feet or so below street level, I rekkin.
I remember seeing proposals in the New Yorks Times for the Kips Bay or
East Side Station. Given the depth of the LIRR Grand Central Station
100 feet isn't that much. Having that station serve both the LIRR and
NJT could ease conditions in Penn Station.
Clark Morris
On 7/26/18 9:16 PM, Clark F Morris wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT), JG <jgrove24@hotmail.com>The Metro stations in Tblisi, Georgia are deeper than that - high speed escalators. (I was there last month) >
wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:56:50 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>>> On 23/07/2018 21:20, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk >>>>> wrote:
On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5,
hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an >>>>>>> overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on
escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies >>>>>>> when the asteroid strike hits ??-a Is there a link to Saks Fifth >>>>>>> and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to >>>>>> perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before >>>>>> trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
I know, but I was referring to the prospect of another station on the
East Side of Manhattan.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
Indeed, that is not a solution, as we saw in the case of the NYW&B.
I assume that the tunnels heading East from Penn start descending
towards the East River, the potential site of an "East Side Stop" in
Manhattan around say, Park Ave, would be 100 feet or so below street
level, I rekkin.
I remember seeing proposals in the New Yorks Times for the Kips Bay or
East Side Station.-a Given the depth of the LIRR Grand Central Station
100 feet isn't that much.-a Having that station serve both the LIRR and
NJT could ease conditions in Penn Station.
Clark Morris
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT), JG <jgrove24@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:56:50 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 23/07/2018 21:20, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 21/07/2018 20:03, JG wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyhIAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA1&dq=%22grand%20central%20terminal%22%20camp%20trains&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Seems like Pataki's East Side Access for LIRR to GCT will be an overpriced flop. How do you move passengers up 14 stories on escalators ?? Maybe ESA will be a shelter for Manhattan fancies when the asteroid strike hits ?? Is there a link to Saks Fifth and the Waldorf via FDR's secret tunnels ??
It might be a naive question, but was there never a possibility to
perhaps build a station on the East Side in the LIRR tunnel before
trains duck under the East River?
There has always been two stations--Hunterspoint Ave and
Long Island City.
I know, but I was referring to the prospect of another station on the
East Side of Manhattan.
The LIRR would like people to use those stations to take some of
the load off of Penna Sta, but then they'd transfer to the No. 7
subway which is very crowded, so that's not a solution.
Indeed, that is not a solution, as we saw in the case of the NYW&B.
I assume that the tunnels heading East from Penn start descending towards the East River, the potential site of an "East Side Stop" in Manhattan around say, Park Ave, would be 100 feet or so below street level, I rekkin.
I remember seeing proposals in the New Yorks Times for the Kips Bay orI wonder how deep the LIRR tunnels are at around 4th Ave. ??
East Side Station. Given the depth of the LIRR Grand Central Station
100 feet isn't that much. Having that station serve both the LIRR and
NJT could ease conditions in Penn Station.
Clark Morris
I remember seeing proposals in the New Yorks Times for the Kips Bay or
East Side Station. Given the depth of the LIRR Grand Central Station
100 feet isn't that much. Having that station serve both the LIRR and
NJT could ease conditions in Penn Station.
I wonder how deep the LIRR tunnels are at around 4th Ave. ??
In article <387f7a55-5b7b-4ea7-8fd2-ac93a9d527ca@googlegroups.com>,
JG <jgrove24@hotmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing proposals in the New Yorks Times for the Kips Bay or
East Side Station. Given the depth of the LIRR Grand Central Station
100 feet isn't that much. Having that station serve both the LIRR and
NJT could ease conditions in Penn Station.
I wonder how deep the LIRR tunnels are at around 4th Ave. ??
A picture in the Wikipedia article says the top of the tunnels is 65
feet below sea level under the East River. So at 4th ave they're
probably something like 50 feet down.
--https://archive.org/stream/pennsylvaniarail00mill/pennsylvaniarail00mill_djvu.txt
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